tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1247368540862329841.post505774684849333678..comments2023-06-07T08:50:33.280-05:00Comments on Immanent Transcendence: A Question about Withdrawal In Object-Oriented Ontologykhadimirhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12960757465883819380noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1247368540862329841.post-16438157480115383912011-11-08T16:10:30.105-06:002011-11-08T16:10:30.105-06:00Matt,
Let me be specific about the analogues. Fr...Matt,<br /><br />Let me be specific about the analogues. From my viewpoint, an analogue of withdrawal in process is "asymmetry." Time as process is asymmetric, and thus, e.g., our attempts to know are rebuffed because human knowingly only occurs in a certain range of phases of the natural process that we call consciousness. We cannot, in the conscious phase, know the prior phases immediately. However, the "receding" or perhaps "withdrawing" nature of those phases are due to the futural asymmetry of the time-process. This is only a partial analogue, because object-object (nonhuman) interactions are not identically affected by the asymmetries of phenomenological temporality as a time-process.khadimirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12960757465883819380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1247368540862329841.post-12255382252528207672011-10-25T21:20:00.113-05:002011-10-25T21:20:00.113-05:00I would agree with you and Adam on this point, but...I would agree with you and Adam on this point, but not in all cases, since I think this is not a uniform thing in OOO. As for time, I haven't come across that point in my limited perusal in the OOO literature. Of course, time and creativity is so basic to process that one does not understand it without them.<br /><br />Speaking hypothetically, I get the feeling that OOO is motivated more by social and political concerns and not the distinctly metaphysical concerns of process. These are not separate, but biases that direct where work is done. Again, a hypothesis.khadimirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12960757465883819380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1247368540862329841.post-89719275958896449172011-10-25T19:56:49.502-05:002011-10-25T19:56:49.502-05:00I remain similarly concerned/confused about the me...I remain similarly concerned/confused about the meaning of withdrawal in OOO. I think the difference between how process thinkers and object-oriented thinkers conceive of the withdrawnness of entities is entirely overhyped. The only difference is that process thinkers take time seriously as a metaphysical reality, whereas for object-oriented thinkers it is a sensual quality (i.e., not "real").Matthew David Segallhttp://www.footnotes2plato.comnoreply@blogger.com